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Post by Quil on May 16, 2014 13:11:48 GMT -8
i guess until someone walked down a path or stuck his finger on a hot stove , how is one to "know" (experience) anothers word.. man is a curious lot, as well a fearful lot, most only have defiance to a point... you get beat into submission enough times people will learn to fall into order , and then there is the symbolic conditioned lot that Cognitive dissonance grinds the head to look at anything other then that which the majority of populous live ..paper is just that "paper" and has no baring on me, my little brother lives by it, and i guess in today's world most feel secure knowing it has "changed" mountains rivers and people, but again to me it has it's power only because people have given it it's power... i will die before i ever accept another bulcrap paper or enforcer of the paper to tell me what to do,,, yes i walk with caution right now but so does the system when they confront me, i no longer react but act very expeditiously and merciless when i feel things will go sideways just by a glance, movement , gesture or verbal command even as subtle as some may be and now the system 'knows" this from run ins with me. how ever most of society is not there yet , but soon i am sure , to many people getting the bad end of the shaft more and more now a days....
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Post by Quil on May 16, 2014 13:12:56 GMT -8
If man is to make it on mother earth we need to step away from the mind for a sec and truly feel the rhythm of our hearts. Then and only then will we be able to comprehend our experiences to life to create balance and harmony. Until then inevitably, man will become the dinosaurs of tomorrow.
someone put knowledge is powerful.. i say to that in todays world because of heteronomy, manipulative ideology is a lot more powerful ...until we wake to that we will always be sheep waiting to be slaughtered....
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Post by Quil on May 16, 2014 13:14:25 GMT -8
Here are some writings i did in some conversations i had with different groups. all comes from mother earth and so it shall go back to hence our relation to one another. for not only is man my relations as is the four legged crawling, winged , rooted or finned.. timhulla is what we in the north west say .to me timhula in our dialect means all encompassing...that is why we don't have hi and bye in our dialect , our ancestors are all around us...one of the things my tupa stated when i was young .. it is not what she stated to be true, for she has tools that our people have being using for time immemorial so there has to be some credibility to them, it is what "I" feel to be true therefore it is.. my tupa once stated because "english" became force onto us we now have what is called chinook ... basically a watered down version of the dialects of old my tupa once stated she woke up into a system she became because of everyday forced assimilation ...now i hear this great spirit or creator in english ... yet not to be misconstrued as "some" great divinity as i see a lot of my brothers and sisters speak now ... if anything the oneness movement is some what on the right track minus we are still each our own individual selves .. no different then the north wind compared to the south wind...the difference in today linguistics is the loss of hz compared to dialects of old... vibration is what drives each and every one of us .. hence a blind deaf can feel more so then can a sighted hearing .. why cause he/she is in touch to that "pressure" and vibration of movement ... like a child and mother or twin with another twin ... i watched when i was a child a elder prepare medicine .. he had no phone or electricity yet he said someone was coming... merlin the magician was the big thing back then so this fascinated me... yet over the years i realized , the sweat lodge , weepy ceremonies , winter dances and other ceremonies are not so much just getting in touch with the "spirit" world as much as it is to tune one into self to be able to feel that energy which is directed at self.... the body is just a instrument to life , uniting matter to energy and that is all .. mother earth is that matter as the sun is that energy ...and the air(space) and moon creates that fusion to get density of matter and energy to move using water of the body to feel that sonoluminescence that is directed at it....vibration of speech is more of a feel good then a hear what ... altitude dictates the out come of such as well .... that is why the different dialects ... it is not as much mans doings as it is mothers geographical area that creates the different sound we all speak to continue to be in balance with that which is around us.... Cognitive dissonance so stress our everyday lifes now for life is not about heteronomy , natives new in order to be self we formed a autonomous collective one thing i realize is dichotomy , colonial v traditional...my tupa's statement " i woke up into a system i became" so resonates in my innerself right now...pedagogy is such the norm of today, people find it hard to step away to be themselves.. first the imperialism creates trauma then indoctrinates a "myth" concept into a indigenous way of life...making legitimation the norm of today's ideology
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Post by Quil on May 16, 2014 13:16:13 GMT -8
anything outside one's self is a setup to hierarchy and nothing else. most tribes on turtle island lived as a a autonomous collective not heteronomy.... English and English symbolism gets one to think, sometimes gets one to change thought process, i want, to i need or vice versa,....basically English pushes the envelope to change tides in one self "direction" creating confusion... Now whether we get into Logogram, Logograph, morphemes phonetic components Blissymbolics or any other derivative in what I call line symbolism or what the so called exports call abstract they are all deceptive if the if the body cannot see the messenger before him/her.most people research the "words"' of english but never realize it is just symbolism that has only been around since the Frisian downfall and the only reason for it's usage is cause of the low frequency base it creates when spoken... as for writing the ABC's we get into Logogram, Logograph, morphemes phonetic components Blissymbolics or any other derivative in what I call line symbolism or what the so called exports call abstract they are all deceptive if the if the body cannot see the messenger before him/her.... a writer once wrote .... you have to know somewhat of the truth to lie convincingly
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Post by Quil on May 19, 2014 20:25:05 GMT -8
the biggest concept of todays world is people live on "fact" .... and yes i am going to make inflammatory statements, why? cause if i didn't it wouldn't be me lol..and the only reason it is "inflammatory" is cause of cognitive dissonance which is the norm today.(you live in the mind to much you get stuck there) first i don't think NAGPRA , there is such a thing in kkkkanada but i could be wrong, so called canada's laws are based on " living tree doctrine" , yes they say they stand by the UNESCO Convention but i say to that ya ok ,,, just like any other so called De Facto law or should i say "color" of law...as far as "law" goes LALL is the origin of the word meaning standing... now lets look at one of the most famous cases of it's time that affected the biggest issue that caused it, the killing of some blacks United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876) a lot of blacks died over that one. now listen to the "magic" of the english presenters words [CRUIKSHANK] PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS Facts, by themselves are, of course, not history. Historical materials or documents, standing alone, are not history. They must be organized elaborated, and combined. This must be done with the proper spirit and in a judicial manner.Without a knowledge of psychology, how can history be properly understood or written? How can the facts be justly appreciated? How can the characters of the chief „actors“ be fairly estimated? The motive forces of human history must be found in the moral constitution of humanity yes? How great is the difficulty of forming a equitable judgment of the actions of public men when private emotions as well as reasons of state are found to influence them, and their actions may appear to result as much from private inclinations as from national policy yes? i love that case because of how flowing the manipulative ABC's were or what i would call the language of the mind . why? English and English symbolism gets one to think, sometimes gets one to change thought process, i want, to i need or vice versa,....basically English pushes the envelope to change tides in one self "direction" creating confusion. ...Culture what is it? as well what is "matter" or substance , flesh bone and blood like the "sovereignist" or free men on the land movements push? What is science? just someone's ideology getting the populous to "believe" in it cause someone says so, because they have "facts" ? first of all in today's world everything we do say or think is nothing but a magical out of the ass Roman culturalized way of "thinking" ..as as far as i am concerned the mind is nothing other then a computerized mass of formula to calculate the passed, to create a pattern and nothing else.. it be plausible to say most speak for experience , maybe even from symbolic heteronomy conditioning? yes? hear the words to this writer ...“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society (let me say that "word" again DEMOCRATIC society) . Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” ― Edward L. Bernays, .. although i put material i find out on the internet of my people , i don't do it because i am looking to point fingers at anyone or any "governing body" in particular but i do it to get the native proud of who he she is... we as grassroots to turtle island are a autonomous collective or at least our ancestors were...( But creation stories and other myths from all cultures contain their own sorts of bias - Sara Kerr) what the hell is bias? bias to me is nothing but the head "thinking" it knows better then what the heart feels..even a colonial writer once wrote .. st Augustine- “The mind commands the body and is instantly obeyed. The mind commands itself and meets resistance.” Do you believe my people lived in the head (name omited)? pedagogy is such the norm of today, people find it hard to step away to be themselves.. first the imperialism creates trauma then indoctrinates a "myth" concept into a indigenous way of life...making legitimation the norm of today's ideology...compounded with the forced manipulative english and science, hierarchy is sure to keep its foot hold on the masses of sheeple. Socrates once wrote."Ordinary people seem not to realize that those who really apply themselves in the right way to philosophy are directly and of their own accord preparing themselves for dying and death." why? because of another quote translated "To know, is to know that you know nothing. That is the meaning of true knowledge." although it is somewhat ambiguous because it is said Socrates spoke classic latin, it still has more standing then does knowledge in on itself. now listen to this writer... 'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.' Aristotle and the last author i will use. "As societies grow decadent, the language grows decadent, too. Words are used to disguise, not to illuminate, action: You liberate a city by destroying it. Words are used to confuse, so that at election time people will solemnly vote against their own interests." —Gore Vidal, Imperial America, 2004 my tupa once stated , "english will never have the same force and affect as our dialects of old." Why ? Because our people were heart felt not head strong. My people looked at life through vibration not fact or "myth" .. A vestige of our forefathers existence still scintillates in each and every one of us. from words like brother and sister and song and dance from the beating of the drums to the cleansing of the bodies through ceremony of one form or another we hold and cherish these with every waking day as life holds true to who we are...we will rise once again and be that much more stronger for the experience of pain can never be equalled by false words of apathy of impersonated life. And those who recognize life in such a way will also move harmonious with us as well... And those who live in "logic", and "Bias" take your "knowledge and bias" and move on to a better colonial (cloned) world , just not turtle island cause you are polluting our way of life that has been here for time immemorial well before the colonial came to the America's.... [this writing was in a response on a debate over the article of New Discovery confirms Native american views on their ancestry, that was published in indian country today media network, on facebook.]
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Post by Quil on May 30, 2014 8:36:47 GMT -8
Democracy is a agreement of a majority it is not a comprehension of self
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Post by Quil on Jun 13, 2014 21:48:02 GMT -8
. I wrote this while i was heading into town earlier, do i tweak it? mmmm. nope because without self one cannot have others , just like ones life, without it, then there is no others....for does a tree make a noise when it falls if no one is there to hear it?....for it is mandatory to comprehend self before one can see any other yes? I will give empathy only to my survival on mother earth for i will not give empathy to it's demise ....for if another offers me altruism then you are I and i am you and our path shall roll harmoniously , yet if you offer me charity and largesse then i shall wait and see where you go, i will help distress no doubt but i help it not because of you, i only help it because of me for it only gives me happiness to see life, but mark my words , i will give death or go down trying if death looks me in the face through anothers eyes...without further adieu here is what i wrote earlier....life is about "self'. I see , hear , taste , touch , and smell that which is in the now and how i approach subject matter will determine the outcome .. a writer once wrote ; “Independent self-reliant people would be a counterproductive anachronism in the collective society of the future where people will be defined by their associations.” 1896 John Dewey . and today with "english" being our master.. we now find English pushing the envelope to change tides in one self (direction) creating confusion. If you live by english words with just thought , more times than not you will get hung up in the head by it, changing the thought process, i want, to i need or vice versa creating a cognitive dissonance ,, to that which you were conditioned to "believe.." , english and schooling is by far not a coincidence of where we are at today... The premeditated mechanism of society was judiciously calculated with malice it's goal ...Those that looked further into its creation were either shunned, ridiculed or forced to cease and desist .. Now that people live in cognitive dependency , nine times out of ten the fall becomes at time's so painful making it harder and harder to pick oneself up again without looking for "logic" to help .. Which brings "democracy" into play...i would concur with John Locke in his statement at birth, the mind was tabula rasa, and that knowledge is instead determined only by experience derived from sense perception. as far as i am concerned the mind is nothing other then a computerized mass of formula to calculate the passed, to create a pattern and nothing else . because of Locke most of what "liberalism" is today, is from a lot of his works "twisted" to suit the policy of the oppressors ...“A general State education is a mere contrivance for molding people to be exactly like one another; and as the mold in which it casts them is that which pleases the dominant power in the government, whether this be a monarch, an aristocracy, or a majority of the existing generation; in proportion as it is efficient and successful, it establishes a despotism over the mind, leading by a natural tendency to one over the body.” John Stuart Mill, 1859.....when we start to wake from our drunken stupors of ignorance with which is the world we live today, then and only then we will learn to live a autonomous collective once again . to have absolutism of self is the truest form to be free, to have absolutism of another under the guise of democracy is the master of tyranny..
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Post by Quil on Jul 19, 2014 5:51:28 GMT -8
what i find funny in life is today people go after a "action" and only skim over emotional stability if it is talked of at all.. Emotional instability is the driving force in todays world..
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Post by Quil on Aug 3, 2014 18:55:51 GMT -8
one of the biggest matrixes going on in the middle east is what is called "conditioning" by the elite to the public... divide and conquer ,, humanity is just that human, there is no us against them unless a oligarchy system creates one..Re legion (re meaning backwards and legion 3 to 6 000 roman soldiers, hence backwards people)and commerce are the two main driving forces to keep the public believing separatism that way the system can use people at their discretion , whether for population control or or commerce , ideology is just that , a thought process ..creating psychology to be the norm of the masses. a writer once wrote ..."Ordinary people seem not to realize that those who really apply themselves in the right way to philosophy are directly and of their own accord preparing themselves for dying and death." Socrates...mind you that is ambiguous at best because Socrates spoke old latin but it gets its point across pretty clearly between the difference of one's heart and mind.. emotional instability of self is created because of psychology, you live in the head to long you become what you speak instead of speak what you are..the ancestors of past mostly lived by the heart and old dialects reflected that...my tupa once said it is not what she stated but what i feel she stated then therefore it will be so... life is about the balance of intuition and thought , yet the elite advanced thought through "education" and symbolic conditioning to get people to live in the head so like i said earlier to use them at the elites becan call .“A general State education is a mere contrivance for molding people to be exactly like one another; and as the mold in which it casts them is that which pleases the dominant power in the government, whether this be a monarch, an aristocracy, or a majority of the existing generation; in proportion as it is efficient and successful, it establishes a despotism over the mind, leading by a natural tendency to one over the body.” John Stuart Mill, 1859.....and when people defy such "logic" then trolls and instigators are places to indoctrinate "logic" back into play... there are too many paid mercenaries out there. too many greedy, to much religion based fundamentalists, symbolic condition and cognitive dissonance runs too deep..The premeditated mechanism of society was judiciously calculated with malice it's goal..at birth, the mind was tabula rasa, and that knowledge is instead determined only by experience derived from sense perception-John Locke. as far as i am concerned the mind is nothing other than a computerized mass of formula to calculate the passed, to create a pattern and nothing else . because of Locke most of what "liberalism" is today, is from a lot of his works "twisted" to suit the policy of the oppressors. There is not a standing army or rebellionist anywhere in the world that is in some way shape or form that is not indoctrinated by the elite in some way shape or form...to have absolutism of self is the truest form to be free, to have absolutism of another under the guise of democracy is the master of tyranny.. written symbolism (words) and the English dialect are man's destiny to extinction, unless we get control of our thoughts and get back to feeling everything for what it is...
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Post by Quil on Aug 11, 2014 18:21:04 GMT -8
this was in a conversation i frequent quite often..I'll omit the names hopefully lol... I'll have to put my views out later .i just finished 15 hrs debt slaving .. i want to relax and enjoy my games for a little while.. but I am sure i can find time on the Sabbath...? mmm i guess what re legion you prefer it could be Saturday or Sunday hmm ... then again when did the gregorian so decide our fates? oh ya i forgot 1582 Pope Gregory XIII mind you USA didn't accept it until get a load of this people lol...1752 ? hola ..and as far as 7 day week . the Babylonians again ..while Roman Emperor Constantine kissed ass he formally adopted the seven-day week in AD 321. making Sunday - the Christian Sabbath..so again Sunday i shall write something further lol
Damn i slept in until 7:00 then played my game for a little while lol... got too love the ability of one self to either rise early or sleep late.... "ability" of "one" ..you get to deep into thought you become what you think then that what you truly are... "To know, is to know that you know nothing. That is the meaning of true knowledge." Socrates.. a animal other than a "human" does not fully rely on it's "memory" but instinct (intuition) more so... man is the true epitome of ignorance because of relying on though more so than intuition .. in today's world life hinges on some form of grammar would of could of should of, then there is the zero conditional .. this and that yin and yang ...wars are wars, a cycle is a cycle and people die everyday ...its not so much the "action" of why one dies but the "ignorance" of why.....until people truly realize this message ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized.― Edward L. Bernays...every day agnosticism is pushed on us ...the funny thing is our own cognitive dissonance is a catalyst to absorb more of "right" and "wrong" "good" and "evil" ....those words in themselve my people have no words for because we were conditioned to recognize self first before we recognize that which was our surroundings...you ever watch a baby watch their hands move and began to laugh? if i am to use the ABC's , that laugh is "life" that vision of movement is a piquancy to his tabula rasa....until people recognize to have absolutism of self is the truest form to be free, to have absolutism of another under the guise of democracy is the master of tyranny..if we continue watching the actions without truly grasping the conditioning we will continue playing right into the elites idiosyncrasies from a proletariat mind set to the judiciousness of others views, for when inveigle is the norm of indoctrination how is one not to see which one lives if they or "society" has no clue how the system is the system. when i see written symbolism i look at usurping one's rights for written symbolism and verbal interaction will never compare for demarcation will always be a factor of expression in either."The Bar, the Pulpit and the Press Nefariously combine To Cry up an usurpt Pow'r And stamp it Right Devine." -1695 I say in two words "colonialism" is to me JIM CROW" and played very alimental to our extinction lol... Shetar seems to be the law of the land of the "world" this very day ...changing the need for land holdings into liquid wealth, whether it be blood , water ,or oil ..tomorrow who knows...but the .question i ask is when are people going to wake from their drunken stupors of reality and see life for what it truly is, emotional stability not emotional instability ...
lol.... xxxxxxx xxxxxxx i love the cognitive dissonance.. question- are you the founding father to english? "We have met the enemy and he is us." — Pogo, the possum - Walt Kelly, 1953..for "The mind is not a vessel to be filled, but a fire to be kindled." Mestrius Plutarchus .. i'll elaborate a little later.. i am just curious how people have been molded to interpret my statement...it is now 2:20 here.. i should have my transmission in by 5:00 and if there is no more views i will elaborate, i elaborated once before for xxxxx but this time i will bring in many a fact to back my statement...
Cameron Todd Willingham, Johnny Frank Garrett, Joe Arridy in USA by their peers were found guilty and sentenced to death, these are just a few of known injustices. 9/11 , how vamped was the populous over that one? what about WWI, WWII, and now the possible new cold war? Israel conflict, conditioning to use paper for identity, religion, "countries" Race? (not that i can run that fast lol)is it not your peers that tell you so? is that not democracy?.why ? cause of so called "law" and dysgenic pressure becomes the norm as the world falls further and further into a dystopia ... creating the breakdown of individual responsibility and consequences of self because of the inveigle to our consciousness ...by words, actions or subliminal messaging in other ways, shapes or forms..I am me and there is no other and it is how i perceive life so therefor it will be.....me and your paths have crossed through the net...tomorrow who knows, it would be good to "read" you again but i will not wait up to see that happen.I love your words at times for they bring melody to my thought. other times i fight the symbolic conditioning i woke to as a child by this colonial world and ask myself why does it affect me so..Georges St-Pierre,sitting bull ,Chief Dan George my grandmother , and many others demeanor i give great respect for.. one day i may have such equanimity, but if i don't oh well it is what it is ,..yes polarity has much to do with life, to balance that by emotional stability is the key to neutrality until then emotional instability will rein well into tomorrow if we choose to continue playing that game of Hegel's dialectic in life..Boethius’ Consolation of Philosophy as a Product of Late Antiquity By Antonio Donato good read people should read it... i was researching? or something come across my fb? anyways it was a issue of ukraine and people getting forced to join the army or something like that.... what i found intriguing was how the women and some men burnt the drafts to recruit...ain't that funny, how can you have a army if the people say fuck off? lol...now that i like , yes we can call that unity... even possibly democracy at its finest ...if you read my statement "guise" ..now i know why democracy was created.Cleisthenes was said to be "the father of Athenian democracy..no it was not created for the people by the people why? cause equality is equality as long as there was a "judicious review" Terra nullius(read between the lines of "land") basically meaning if crown has not given it standing then it has no standing .. yet if Sui generis is in effect then we just take it under manipulation coercion and the threat of arms or genocide . why? ...1455 Romanus Pontifex , something that still stands to this very day..now i hear peoples views, and yes as long as we open our eyes in all directions to life , then there will be no place for the elite to hide thier bulshit any more, then and only then we may get back on track to being a autonomous collective once again..for ...“Independent self-reliant people would be a counterproductive anachronism in the collective society of the future where people will be defined by their associations.” 1896 John Dewey
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Post by Quil on Aug 12, 2014 13:06:36 GMT -8
the more in tune to one's heart , the more intune to one surroundings...leaving memory and the five senses to relay the message.she/he who lives by the heart exuberates wealth of the soul .. death has many tools in its layer to offset the wealth.. victim being the biggest.. to darken the skies with pain...
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Post by Quil on Aug 12, 2014 16:19:59 GMT -8
everything is symbolism and labels.. when one prides the label to the point of losing equanimity to self he/she loose's all identification to the heart .
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Post by Quil on Aug 15, 2014 19:36:04 GMT -8
is not “Truth that which conforms to reality, fact, or actuality.” is not truth based on ideology of one form or another . Even then , How does perception effect truth? the philosophy of truth has too many variables, even they have a infinite number of questions they raise.. so i say "truth is what you make it , then therefore it is, for at the end of each day it is you that you have to answer to not no one else...is truth "logic" ? but nature has truths that have no logic.. Then there is relativism my wife and children are all i see .. This isn't logically provable via theorems and formulas and logic paradigms, but it is, nevertheless, true. yes?The emic approach of one's own ethics is the only absolute truth there is to life...everything else is just consequences and no more.... as for conditioning i ask what then is intuition? is that a form of conditioning brought on by biases? .or is it a endowment from nature itself? or could it not be a connection of energy and matter no different then chopping off a head of a chicken and setting him down to run the coop ? i personally see life as balance and there is no other...anything other is knocking ones equilibrium off to everlasting abyss ,whether it be the mind or body eventually bringing death to one's door if continued to go unchecked..
to me if i were to use to a set of abc symbolism it would be Yin and yang ..for yes "polarity" as well as "Through the looking glass"s pseudonym Lewis Carroll .anthropomorphic deities such as Humpty Dumpty shows a sense of balance of both mind and body complementing one another or yes the egg will fall and "splat" itself into oblivion . ain't that ironic "Olympus Has Fallen" ..hollywood will always show and tell before the main event lol.protons and electrons yes but a neutron will alway balance that which is unbalanced ..again remember we live in rome still so life is based on roman ideology...once you recognize the dots .. they become easier and easier to connect..just like 3 strikes your out...
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Post by Quil on Aug 16, 2014 2:41:41 GMT -8
Im not going to get into over the land bridge "immigration" or expatriate because that is ludicrous.. nor am i going to get into "monkey" or tadpole people either...yet i will say yes we did all nomadize some for "economical" while others for "livelihood management" even others for shunning, extermination or inequality....thats a given... but what if find funny of denoting transitive, intransitive , for english is of the nonce , to elaborate on division ie: less than or greater for. creating an objective more so than transmundane.i am better then you or he is of great power..they are my nemesis ....people talk of turtle island people (american "Indian" ?) like they know the "history" ....you know nothing but that which you read or hear ....to elaborate on "spirituality" is more omniscient that which any so called "his story" will ever bring...that being said ,as long as we talk "economics" (english) then i will always refute people's choice about the americus empire and it's past...mind you his story is such a double edged sword when it comes to "proving" through written symbolism..cause people can't grasp the Nondeterministic algorithm english plays when he/she knows not the cognitive dissonance he/she speaks from most of the time..
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Post by Quil on Aug 17, 2014 7:34:56 GMT -8
for as long as one can create emotional instability of the masses then and only then pedagogy/Andragogy can be achieved...
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